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Post by RabbitWho on Apr 3, 2010 9:42:33 GMT -5
Has anyone ever been on a website called eRepublic? It's an online game, I only played for a few days, but there were various politcal parties who were competing for votes, as a result every new member was welcomed at least once by every party and sent free stuff and had the game explained to them and everyone was really helpful and nice. In the end when I left i sent out everything i had collected to everyone who had helped me. It was a boring game, but there was a strong community, the problem is they only did good things for the imaginary game world. Do you think some kind of competition would be good? Do you think something similar could benefit us? Some kind of point system that awards good behavior? A lot of advice forums have a "thanks" button that you press if the person helps you. Having a really high thanks rating is a badge of honor. I know people don't do it for points. But it's nice to be appreciated, (my mom used to work for a charity with a load of wonderful kind good people, who were constantly having arguments and/or leaving because they didn't feel appreciated, and maybe they weren't.. outside of the group they couldn't help people as much, but inside the group they felt miserable and demotivated.) It is set into human nature that we love accumulating things, money, points in video games, rocks, knives and forks (we only need 1 for each person living in the house and 1 for each friend who might visit at a time, yet how many do we have?) and i think it'll get people addicted to doing something they want to do anyway. Like leveling up! There was a TED video about making real life more like video games in order to motivate people, they gave statistics about the amount of hours people have spent playing WoW, and why? They give loads of reasons: www.ted.com/talks/jane_mcgonigal_gaming_can_make_a_better_world.htmlAmazing talk, very relevant to what people are trying to do here i think.
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Yokailo
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Post by Yokailo on Apr 3, 2010 9:44:27 GMT -5
Excuse me, sir, but I don't like your tone. My life-span on this forum far surpasses yours. I believe that you have been on this forum for under twenty-four hours. My experience here isn't a lot, but I have been here for probably twenty times as long as you. You are in no position to tell me what to do. You could calmly ask me to leave, but, instead, you decided to scream at me in a post with improper grammar. I am trying to deal with this situation calmly. I don't mind that you don't want my help. Please, be rational. I understand that we all have our "troll moments" but try to control yourself. Thank you. Hold on. Isn't it a great thing if people who have only been here for 24 hours are already this involved? Please don't go scare them away already. By the way, if you need any help, I'd love to help with this- I've seen a lot of people with only 3 posts who only made an introduction thread.. I'd like to help people to get involved. ^^
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Yokailo
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Post by Yokailo on Apr 3, 2010 9:46:24 GMT -5
Has anyone ever been on a website called eRepublic? It's an online game, I only played for a few days, but there were various politcal parties who were competing for votes, as a result every new member was welcomed at least once by every party and sent free stuff and had the game explained to them and everyone was really helpful and nice. In the end when I left i sent out everything i had collected to everyone who had helped me. It was a boring game, but there was a strong community, the problem is they only did good things for the imaginary game world. Do you think some kind of competition would be good? Do you think something similar could benefit us? Some kind of point system that awards good behavior? A lot of advice forums have a "thanks" button that you press if the person helps you. Having a really high thanks rating is a badge of honor. I know people don't do it for points. But it's nice to be appreciated, (my mom used to work for a charity with a load of wonderful kind good people, who were constantly having arguments and/or leaving because they didn't feel appreciated, and maybe they weren't.. outside of the group they couldn't help people as much, but inside the group they felt miserable and demotivated.) It is set into human nature that we love accumulating things, money, points in video games, rocks, knives and forks (we only need 1 for each person living in the house and 1 for each friend who might visit at a time, yet how many do we have?) and i think it'll get people addicted to doing something they want to do anyway. Like leveling up! There was a TED video about making real life more like video games in order to motivate people, they gave statistics about the amount of hours people have spent playing WoW, and why? They give loads of reasons: www.ted.com/talks/jane_mcgonigal_gaming_can_make_a_better_world.htmlAmazing talk, very relevant to what people are trying to do here i think. I'm all in for a Like-button underneath every post, as long as there is a Dislike-one as well. If you are going to reward posts, you must make sure people don't give these likes too easily.
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Post by click3tyclick on Apr 3, 2010 9:48:39 GMT -5
Excuse me, sir, but I don't like your tone. My life-span on this forum far surpasses yours. I believe that you have been on this forum for under twenty-four hours. My experience here isn't a lot, but I have been here for probably twenty times as long as you. You are in no position to tell me what to do. You could calmly ask me to leave, but, instead, you decided to scream at me in a post with improper grammar. I am trying to deal with this situation calmly. I don't mind that you don't want my help. Please, be rational. I understand that we all have our "troll moments" but try to control yourself. Thank you. Hold on. Isn't it a great thing if people who have only been here for 24 hours are already this involved? Please don't go scare them away already. By the way, if you need any help, I'd love to help with this- I've seen a lot of people with only 3 posts who only made an introduction thread.. I'd like to help people to get involved. ^^ The thing about SPOTM is that it's so easy to just dive head first into any running discussion. There's no "LULZ NEW GUY LET'S IGNORE AND DISREGARD EVERYTHING HE SEZ K" attitude like there is in many online communities. When I first joined the old moon, I just started participating in projects, discussions and conversations. I didn't even make an introduction thread. Also, one of the things that helped me fit in was skype. The most wonderful things I've witnessed here happened in the slype chat.
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Post by nickgreyden on Apr 3, 2010 9:58:17 GMT -5
@dorian Gray and Conjoin DFTBA
@ rabbitwho I love this idea. Though I would be slightly afraid of it becoming a noose and not a badge, I'm for it none-the-less. Might try popping that in the suggestion forum and see what comes of it.
@everyone I really like the idea of a non-automated PM sent to the new people. What I would personally would like to see further yet do not have the time to work on it myself would be a newbie mentor system. The WTF is a great idea, but instead of just welcoming, why not lead. Be someone they can connect with on a personal level. It creates those bonds that are missing on so many other forums. Be the person that someone has no trouble asking the "stupid questions" of and point, direct, encourage involvement.
I know for me, I didn't get near as much out of the people here until I got on skype with everyone. I didn't get the full awesome of people until working with them on a project. Information like this could be vital to the maintenance of the tribe. Think about it.
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Post by Johncoyne on Apr 3, 2010 10:00:19 GMT -5
Can you guys get back on topic or are we just going to comment on each others behavior until everyone is frustrated? (comment on behavior, i know) You have the ability to delete posts! do it! Heheh, I forgot about the delete posts function. I'll delete all of mine except the one directly meant for Dorian, and if he wants to disrespect me further, he can do it through PM. I don't think everyone needs to see it.
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RabbitWho
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Post by RabbitWho on Apr 3, 2010 10:00:59 GMT -5
Has anyone ever been on a website called eRepublic? It's an online game, I only played for a few days, but there were various politcal parties who were competing for votes, as a result every new member was welcomed at least once by every party and sent free stuff and had the game explained to them and everyone was really helpful and nice. In the end when I left i sent out everything i had collected to everyone who had helped me. It was a boring game, but there was a strong community, the problem is they only did good things for the imaginary game world. Do you think some kind of competition would be good? Do you think something similar could benefit us? Some kind of point system that awards good behavior? A lot of advice forums have a "thanks" button that you press if the person helps you. Having a really high thanks rating is a badge of honor. I know people don't do it for points. But it's nice to be appreciated, (my mom used to work for a charity with a load of wonderful kind good people, who were constantly having arguments and/or leaving because they didn't feel appreciated, and maybe they weren't.. outside of the group they couldn't help people as much, but inside the group they felt miserable and demotivated.) It is set into human nature that we love accumulating things, money, points in video games, rocks, knives and forks (we only need 1 for each person living in the house and 1 for each friend who might visit at a time, yet how many do we have?) and i think it'll get people addicted to doing something they want to do anyway. Like leveling up! There was a TED video about making real life more like video games in order to motivate people, they gave statistics about the amount of hours people have spent playing WoW, and why? They give loads of reasons: www.ted.com/talks/jane_mcgonigal_gaming_can_make_a_better_world.htmlAmazing talk, very relevant to what people are trying to do here i think. I'm all in for a Like-button underneath every post, as long as there is a Dislike-one as well. If you are going to reward posts, you must make sure people don't give these likes too easily. I don't know, that's negativity. I don't think any of us has the right to punish each other, but not encouraging someone is a form of discouragement? If something gets out of hand the moderators still have their powers. If people disagree and want to include the "no thanks" button it shouldn't be anonymous. There's already too much anonymity online as it is and it leads to nastiness.
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Yokailo
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Post by Yokailo on Apr 3, 2010 10:02:18 GMT -5
Hold on. Isn't it a great thing if people who have only been here for 24 hours are already this involved? Please don't go scare them away already. By the way, if you need any help, I'd love to help with this- I've seen a lot of people with only 3 posts who only made an introduction thread.. I'd like to help people to get involved. ^^ The thing about SPOTM is that it's so easy to just dive head first into any running discussion. There's no "LULZ NEW GUY LET'S IGNORE AND DISREGARD EVERYTHING HE SEZ K" attitude like there is in many online communities. When I first joined the old moon, I just started participating in projects, discussions and conversations. I didn't even make an introduction thread. Also, one of the things that helped me fit in was skype. The most wonderful things I've witnessed here happened in the slype chat. It's a great thing you immediately dived in, well done on that, but there are people on here who can't unleash their full awesomeness until they get the help they need. The mentor-thing is a good idea, but I think that could get quite confusing.. If like five people go "PM ME!".. Plus most people wouldn't allow it. Internet-pride is a horrific thing.
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Dorian Gray
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Post by Dorian Gray on Apr 3, 2010 10:02:42 GMT -5
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Very well... Conjoin Music, its seems you don't like this project. You have stated this two times already. Now if you would be so kindly as to leave and stop bugging us about it, it would be highly appreciated.
Or maybe suggest something better...
happy now?
by the way, I'm still waiting for the "more worthy cause" you were suggesting.
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Post by Johncoyne on Apr 3, 2010 10:03:25 GMT -5
Ok, those post have been deleted. I'm sorry for making a big deal about it. I should have contacted Dorian via PM in the first place.
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Post by chelseeyuh on Apr 3, 2010 10:04:23 GMT -5
I think the welcome video idea was REALLY good, and we should try to revive that, and maybe see if an admin could have a link to it posted on the moon home page, like where they put the pogotok updates (not in the threads, but above). pogotribe.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=projects&action=display&thread=94If you go there ^ you'll find the information about the video, and a link to the script. I think it covers all of the information that a new person needs to know. And I think we could get a group of people that are willing to get questions from new members, but we shouldn't go out and PM every single new person. If a new person has questions, they can PM someone in the group.
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Dorian Gray
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Post by Dorian Gray on Apr 3, 2010 10:08:00 GMT -5
@everyone I really like the idea of a non-automated PM sent to the new people. What I would personally would like to see further yet do not have the time to work on it myself would be a newbie mentor system. The WTF is a great idea, but instead of just welcoming, why not lead. Be someone they can connect with on a personal level. It creates those bonds that are missing on so many other forums. Be the person that someone has no trouble asking the "stupid questions" of and point, direct, encourage involvement. I know for me, I didn't get near as much out of the people here until I got on skype with everyone. I didn't get the full awesome of people until working with them on a project. Information like this could be vital to the maintenance of the tribe. Think about it. Awesome! So everyone gets some kind of mentor to lead them in case they need help or they aren't sure what to do it. I very much like your idea Nick Now how do we implement it?
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Camoon
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Post by Camoon on Apr 3, 2010 10:14:21 GMT -5
I think I may open the AutoMessages discussion up again. The only argument against it seems to be it's not as personal as they would like. But there are so many more +'s for it.
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Dorian Gray
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Post by Dorian Gray on Apr 3, 2010 10:14:54 GMT -5
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Post by Johncoyne on Apr 3, 2010 10:14:55 GMT -5
I like the idea of mentoring. I'm not so sure how much mentoring is needed, though. If there is a demand for mentoring, then it's a pretty awesome idea.
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Camoon
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Post by Camoon on Apr 3, 2010 10:16:38 GMT -5
Nu thread 4 mentoring?
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Post by nickgreyden on Apr 3, 2010 10:16:54 GMT -5
The mentor-thing is a good idea, but I think that could get quite confusing.. If like five people go "PM ME!".. Plus most people wouldn't allow it. Internet-pride is a horrific thing. agreed about the internet pride thing However what I was refering to is a personally typed message that at least sounds honest and sincere. "Hey Yokailo and welcome to the tribe! You may have found the moon through Dan Brown... no, the other Dan Brown. Or possibly through a friend or family member. You might have stumbled on us while looking for information on the south pole of the moon (here's a tip, it's taken). It is however most likely that you found us through our sheer awesomeness which is great cause we could always use more of your awesome. However, no matter how you arrived, you are here now and welcome! In case you haven't been introduced to the concepts of tribes here are a few of short videos about what we are all about. [insert urls] If you already know all this, great you can jump straight into our very own POGOTOKS found in the IMPORTANT!!!!!11!! forum where Dan has a few discussions with us and let's us know what he's up to. However, the best part of SPOTM is not Dan. Don't get me wrong he is awesome and a loveable leader but here it's all about us: you, me, and everyone else. etc etc about projects and forum games and polls etc etc etc Lastly, you get the extra special prize of me! I'm hear for you. Got a question? Need help? You gonna eat that?... sorry I'm hungry. Anyway, I am around if you need me. Shoot me a PM if you have any questions. In case you are wondering and have actually read this far, no I'm not a bot, I'm a real person, and I'm on here often :-) Hope to see you on the forums and skype soon! nickgreyden" You get the idea. It's not just a message saying "ohai" it's offering yourself to be their guide and let them know what is going on.
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Post by nickgreyden on Apr 3, 2010 10:18:22 GMT -5
ARGGHHH
This thread has been dead for so long and now I can't type anything without 6 more replies going off :-)
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Dorian Gray
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Post by Dorian Gray on Apr 3, 2010 10:18:23 GMT -5
Cam thats what i thought but are we going to get the admins on board?
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Post by click3tyclick on Apr 3, 2010 10:21:05 GMT -5
ARGGHHH This thread has been dead for so long and now I can't type anything without 6 more replies going off :-) You wrote a novel.
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