TheIslander
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From a Land Surrounded by Sea.
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Post by TheIslander on Jun 7, 2010 10:43:39 GMT -5
It could have been a crate of tampons, illegal is illegal. No exceptions.
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Post by krzych32 on Jun 7, 2010 10:47:55 GMT -5
Then W. Bush was right, and there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, we just didn't get his definition. When you claim they have weapons, don't show me slingshots. But that is outside the point that it was an act of piracy, Israel is the new Somalia.
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Post by The Monster on Jun 7, 2010 18:41:19 GMT -5
I think you guys need to consider where you are getting all of this information from, for if I remember correctly it's was Israel who released all of this information about what happened.
Personally I believe there was a lot more to it than was told in regards to personal abuse and discrimination against the protesters. Which had caused them to react/defend themselves.
All I'm saying is Israel attacked the ship and made the story; as was noted earlier they also released the footage...which coincidently suited their story; that they were purposely attacked...
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Post by shinigami345 on Jun 7, 2010 18:43:28 GMT -5
Why can't they just get along? Israel has like the 3rd strongest military on the plannet anyways. So you can't win unless you're the USA, Russia, China, or something.
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Post by KipEnyan on Jun 7, 2010 19:45:41 GMT -5
I can have it both ways, they were both wrong. The aid ship knew what it was getting into. Israel's embargo/blockade of Gaza is no secret, so even with the "international waters" safeguard, you figure they had to know they were going to get boarded if they refused to dock at an Israeli port.
Saying that the "Israely state is pure evil" is rather ignorant. They're approaching the situation all wrong, but there wouldn't BE a situation if the surrounding Arabic nations recognized Israel's right to exist.
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FranticProdigy
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Post by FranticProdigy on Jun 8, 2010 16:41:05 GMT -5
Isnt Hummus the real problem?
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Post by KipEnyan on Jun 8, 2010 18:05:33 GMT -5
Hummus? The problem?! Absolutely not! Hummus is quite delicious my friend, I do enjoy it with crackers quite frequently!
XD
But yeah, Hamas is a bit of an issue.
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Post by krzych32 on Jun 8, 2010 18:37:47 GMT -5
Isnt Hummus the real problem? One extreme gives a birht to another. In this world the creaziest nation wins.
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FranticProdigy
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Post by FranticProdigy on Jun 9, 2010 17:02:50 GMT -5
Hummus? The problem?! Absolutely not! Hummus is quite delicious my friend, I do enjoy it with crackers quite frequently! XD But yeah, Hamas is a bit of an issue. Bruno reference.
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Post by KipEnyan on Jun 9, 2010 20:12:27 GMT -5
Understood. ;P
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Post by mynameisnotimporta on Jun 9, 2010 20:14:31 GMT -5
I think that Isreal should get out, whos idea was it to put a Jewish country on land where Arabs live which is surrounded by arabs?
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Post by KipEnyan on Jun 9, 2010 20:24:29 GMT -5
Britain's. But the debate of whether or not they should've been put there in the first place is irrelevant now. It's too late. At this point, it's ludicrously impractical to say "All Jews, get out of the Middle East.", so I really think the Arabic nations should just be the bigger men and let bygones be bygones so Israel doesn't HAVE to be tyrannical maniacs. (Not saying I support how Israel is acting, just saying their hand is a little pushed)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2010 18:24:20 GMT -5
I'm just saying... This needs to end
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Post by tehincoreuptable on Jun 26, 2010 15:38:39 GMT -5
Make peace, split the land, both sides should stfu and get over it. Every group of people needs a home land or "base". You can't just function without it. What would SPOTMites be without SPOTM? Nothing. What would Americans be without America? Nill. What were Jews before Israel? They were a group of followers of a religion that had no real homeland. Yes, there were German Jews, Polish Jews, French Jews, Chinese Jews, Australian Jews, etc. etc. etc. but they never had a homeland that was common to all of them. A Jew that lived in Australia felt as displaced as a Jew in France. It's totally different than if you had your home native country. If I left Canada, it would still be my homeland. I come from there. The Jewish people come from Israel, but Israel didn't exist. We need a place to just chill and be Jews with other Jews. That said, Israel has no right to attack others. One of our unwritten codes of being Jewish is to treat others well. We cannot use years of hate towards us to hate others. We cannot use genocide as an excuse to commit it.
With these tactics, people are going to go back as seeing Jews as horrible people. Once that happens, what's going to stop the next Holocaust? This time, people will see that Jews were ACTIVELY pursuing violence. They will believe that we don't deserve to have our (broken) promised land, and not only will it be taken away, people will start widely hating us again because we fucked up big time.
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bullskitur
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Post by bullskitur on Jun 26, 2010 17:55:49 GMT -5
Make peace, split the land, both sides should stfu and get over it. Why should Israel make peace? They're winning, give it another 50 years and there will be no Palestine and every palestinian will have been moved or killed. Also most people seem to be forgetting the fact that it was the Arabs that declared war on Israel back in 1948 and again in 1973. I'm not saying that what Israel is doing is right but they can't afford to appear weak.
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Post by tehincoreuptable on Jun 27, 2010 9:25:32 GMT -5
Make peace, split the land, both sides should stfu and get over it. Why should Israel make peace? They're winning, give it another 50 years and there will be no Palestine and every palestinian will have been moved or killed. Also most people seem to be forgetting the fact that it was the Arabs that declared war on Israel back in 1948 and again in 1973. I'm not saying that what Israel is doing is right but they can't afford to appear weak. Because genocide is what happened to us. Why the fuck should we turn around and do it to another group? We know what happened to us. We should use that to do whatever we can to prevent further genocides. Both sides are in the wrong. Yes, they need to appear as if they won't get pwned if war breaks out, so that it doesn't. THERE ARE OTHER WAYS OF DOING THAT THAN BRUTALLY KILLING PEOPLE.
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Post by krzych32 on Jun 27, 2010 10:04:38 GMT -5
Why should Israel make peace? They're winning, give it another 50 years and there will be no Palestine and every palestinian will have been moved or killed. Also most people seem to be forgetting the fact that it was the Arabs that declared war on Israel back in 1948 and again in 1973. I'm not saying that what Israel is doing is right but they can't afford to appear weak. Because genocide is what happened to us. Why the fuck should we turn around and do it to another group? We know what happened to us. We should use that to do whatever we can to prevent further genocides. Both sides are in the wrong. Yes, they need to appear as if they won't get pwned if war breaks out, so that it doesn't. THERE ARE OTHER WAYS OF DOING THAT THAN BRUTALLY KILLING PEOPLE. Yeah, I have my 15th cousin in palestine.
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