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Post by Xanast on Dec 13, 2010 17:56:50 GMT -5
(and on my Mac, Final Cut and iLife). I think I do know how to read.
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Post by austkyzor on Dec 13, 2010 21:36:14 GMT -5
Flappy - actually, Vista was initially based on Leopard
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Post by newschooled on Dec 13, 2010 22:49:22 GMT -5
Flappy - actually, Vista was initially based on Leopard Unless you can provide citation on Apple or Microsoft's websites to support that - I am very apt to pass it off as a rumor. Unix and DOS based systems are very different things.
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Post by austkyzor on Dec 14, 2010 1:55:37 GMT -5
Fair enough.
However, Windows hasn't been DOS based since Win 95. Vista uses a hybrid kernel of Windows NT and, surprise, surprise, Unix - you could remove that component - but it came with Vista - at least, my understanding of the wikipedia article leads me to conclude it.
Also - while I'm thinking of it - Vista's only real problem - not annoyances, like the hyperactive security - was it's high system requirements. Just sayin'
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Post by Xanast on Dec 14, 2010 15:14:30 GMT -5
I'll admit, Visa kinda sucked. But Windows 7 rules. Wish I had it.
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Post by marypo on Dec 15, 2010 4:50:57 GMT -5
Show me a mac that matches my system specs at anywhere near the same price as I payed for my PC collectively and I'll buy a mac tomorrow. Well to be honest, I wouldn't but I'm sure you see what I'm getting at.
If I really wanted to run any Mac-only software, I would just install OSX and dual-boot, or better yet install it on a virtual machine.
I don't get viruses because I'm not stupid. My computer doesn't crash for the same reason. For someone who knows how to maintain their computer, Windows will always be better.
That being said, if you don't know how and don't care to learn how to maintain a PC, you have a fat wad of cash lying around and you don't mind that 90% of all software will be meaningless to you, then by all means buy a Mac.
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Post by newschooled on Dec 15, 2010 14:28:59 GMT -5
I don't get viruses because I'm not stupid. My computer doesn't crash for the same reason. For someone who knows how to maintain their computer, Windows will always be better. That being said, if you don't know how and don't care to learn how to maintain a PC, you have a fat wad of cash lying around and you don't mind that 90% of all software will be meaningless to you, then by all means buy a Mac. Wow...Kind of a personal attack on people who use Macs, huh? I refer you to my previous post of why I prefer Macs. But I guess that means that I'm stupid, unlike yourself. That's cool.
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Post by Raydawn on Dec 15, 2010 14:53:13 GMT -5
I don't get viruses because I'm not stupid. My computer doesn't crash for the same reason. For someone who knows how to maintain their computer, Windows will always be better. That being said, if you don't know how and don't care to learn how to maintain a PC, you have a fat wad of cash lying around and you don't mind that 90% of all software will be meaningless to you, then by all means buy a Mac. Wow...Kind of a personal attack on people who use Macs, huh? I refer you to my previous post of why I prefer Macs. But I guess that means that I'm stupid, unlike yourself. That's cool. it was kinda rude, but it's true though. you don't get viruses unless u do smth stupid, they don't just magically appear on ur pc. the rest of his post is also true, you can build a pc with fucking ridiculous amazing specs for much less than a decent average mac the mac fits a weird niche, it's basically for "artsy" ppl who want to do editing, desiging, whatever, and that's just because of the software. the os itself, the only differences are just that, differences, not "better" or "worse". differences in the design of an os. windows runs more software, is more customizable (hardware) and much cheaper; mac has some better software for sound/image/video editing and there aren't as many viruses (which should be a non-issue, but unfortunately many ppl who use pcs are quite bad and get all sorts of viruses)
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Post by marypo on Dec 15, 2010 15:59:04 GMT -5
I don't get viruses because I'm not stupid. My computer doesn't crash for the same reason. For someone who knows how to maintain their computer, Windows will always be better. That being said, if you don't know how and don't care to learn how to maintain a PC, you have a fat wad of cash lying around and you don't mind that 90% of all software will be meaningless to you, then by all means buy a Mac. Wow...Kind of a personal attack on people who use Macs, huh? I refer you to my previous post of why I prefer Macs. But I guess that means that I'm stupid, unlike yourself. That's cool. Personal attack? Sure. True? Also yes. In the last five years: I've spent under 2,000$ on my PC, it has only crashed once due to a video-card smoking(My fault) and I have never gotten a virus. I can also run any Software, iLife and Final cut included. As you said: I've had this debate dozens and dozens of times, but arguements and naming specs and prices simply do not compete with reality, track record and experience.
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Post by Freddy on Dec 15, 2010 16:31:25 GMT -5
In the last five years, I have spent $1,200 on my Mac. No servicing required.
(And of course, that's what I paid for it.)
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Post by newschooled on Dec 15, 2010 22:24:05 GMT -5
In the last five years, I have spent $1,200 on my Mac. No servicing required. Ditto. No crashes, viruses, and no video cards blowing up either!
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Post by marypo on Dec 16, 2010 0:10:41 GMT -5
In the last five years, I have spent $1,200 on my Mac. No servicing required. Ditto. No crashes, viruses, and no video cards blowing up either! "I've had this debate dozens and dozens of times, but arguements and naming specs and prices simply do not compete with reality, track record and experience."
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Post by Freddy on Dec 16, 2010 0:18:29 GMT -5
So what is your reality, track record and experience in comparison?
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Post by Xanast on Dec 16, 2010 15:37:37 GMT -5
I agree. If ur smart, u don't get viruses. And, if you get a virus, about 20 seconds worth of work remove it from a PC. Press the windows button, go to run, type in "mrt", click quick OR full scan, and it finds the malware and removes it. Viola.
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Post by newschooled on Dec 16, 2010 17:34:55 GMT -5
It's definitely way easier to deal with than it was 5 or 10 or 15 years ago. (I remember our old windows 3.0 and windows 95 machines when I was a kid...They died slow agonizing deaths, and anti-virus was a brand new concept.)
Although I gotta say with Mac, you don't even have to do THAT much. And yeah, some people are idiots about they risk they run on the internet, but that doesn't mean that owning a Mac makes you an idiot.
I work for an I.T. company, and we're about to replace a bunch of our PC's with Macs because we're sick of having to re-program Windows 7 constantly just to keep our server interface programs running properly. (We've been running a couple Macs as trials and they've already proven to be completely bombproof in terms of stability, by comparison to our Windows 7 PCs over the last couple months.)
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Post by marypo on Dec 19, 2010 3:31:04 GMT -5
So what is your reality, track record and experience in comparison? The reality is that I've always enjoyed Windows more, though Mac never proved to be too terrible. In the end it all comes down to preference. I would like to apologize for the "tone" of my original post, it was rather rude. My mood was due to the culmination of several IRL events that have no place here; That doesn't excuse what I typed but I hope it will provide some understanding.
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Post by Raydawn on Dec 19, 2010 5:19:14 GMT -5
In the last five years, I have spent $1,200 on my Mac. and you cant run SHIRT
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Post by Freddy on Dec 19, 2010 10:29:43 GMT -5
In the last five years, I have spent $1,200 on my Mac. and you cant run SHIRT What do you mean by that? I have never felt a gap in software for using a mac. If there is really some program that is Windows only, there is WINE. (Linux geeks rejoice!)
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Post by Raydawn on Dec 19, 2010 11:08:55 GMT -5
What do you mean by that? I have never felt a gap in software for using a mac. If there is really some program that is Windows only, there is WINE. (Linux geeks rejoice!) lol i meant games, regular software is ever heavy enough to notice a make a diference
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Post by Freddy on Dec 19, 2010 11:27:49 GMT -5
Games? You can still run them with CrossOver.
You get a small performance hit (never more than 10-15 fps), but now that Steam is on the Mac, it's just a matter of time before this isn't even a problem.
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