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Post by Freddy on Dec 24, 2010 11:43:09 GMT -5
Side-note: Minecraft crashed with the Beta update. It was fixed shortly afterwards. It actually brought the system down in those 3 cases, but hey, Steam is really buggy right now, Minecraft was just updated, and don't tell me you've never crashed your computer by poking system files! Why would you say that Mac is idiot proofed? And wasn't Vista worse? Want to post this message? This is a REALLY harmful operation. Proceed? *Accept* *Decline*
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Post by newschooled on Dec 24, 2010 12:11:19 GMT -5
OLOLOLOL! So...What you're saying is that I'm an idiot? Don't tell the I.T. company that I work for! Naw, any $400 computer can run games. It doesn't take nearly as much processing power as multimedia and server interface programs. (For example, running CS programs with multiple documents open on each, Gooey/Squid Unix interface and rendering video...Takes a LOT of processing power. This is when every PC I touch starts freezing or shutting down regardless of specs. The Mac is just stable and doesn't shut down programs when the RAM gets close to maxing out. Or as you call it...Idiot proof.)
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Post by Nakor on Dec 24, 2010 19:39:15 GMT -5
Yeah, the only time my current laptop has crashed was when I was screwing around with things I shouldn't in Linux and broke something, which was my own damn fault. Nothing on the Win7 (and previously WinXP) side ever crashed anything to the best of my recollection.
As for that massive (seriously, way too big) image, it makes some valid points, but I do want to point out one flaw in the logic when it's talking about the processors. It compares these two items:
Two 2.26GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon Two 2.66GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon
And concludes that the second one is merely 400MHz faster than the first. This is incorrect; it is 400MHz faster per core per processor. It is actually 3.2GHz faster if it is being fully utilized (all four cores on each of the two processors are being used; this probably requires multitasking). The former is about 18GHz and the latter about 21.3GHz (both rounded) if they're at full utilization.
Still very expensive of course.
Which leads to a good question for the mac users -- why not buy or self-build a PC and then install OSX on it? Plus if you self-build or have one built to your specs, you don't have to have Windows on it, so you don't end up having to pay the OEM price for it.
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Post by newschooled on Dec 24, 2010 20:52:03 GMT -5
Which leads to a good question for the mac users -- why not buy or self-build a PC and then install OSX on it? Plus if you self-build or have one built to your specs, you don't have to have Windows on it, so you don't end up having to pay the OEM price for it. That's kindof what I do. I'll buy the cheapest model of a Mac that I can (Once I even bought a display model and saved $200 more) and then I do all the upgrades to give it the guts of the highest end model. All this jazz about how you can't upgrade or customize a Mac is garbage.
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Post by austkyzor on Dec 26, 2010 14:33:22 GMT -5
I am most certainly NOT saying you're an idiot Rob - I'm saying most computer users are, regardless of operating system.
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Post by Freddy on Dec 26, 2010 15:58:40 GMT -5
I am most certainly NOT saying you're an idiot Rob - I'm saying most computer users are, regardless of operating system. *Ding* But it's a Mac vs PC debate, so your argument is, although correct, off-topic.
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Post by SwimFellow on Dec 26, 2010 16:38:08 GMT -5
Actually, I got the Minecraft Beta as it came out on Mac. And it worked perfectly (and ran actually faster) for me. So, whoever's using an old version of Java on an old version of mac is a noob. I never got why Minecraft ran of Java. That's my pet peeve about it, and anyone, frankly, who isn't a noob should hate it.
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Post by Freddy on Dec 26, 2010 16:56:10 GMT -5
I actually took a HUGE performance hit, but Notch solved it in no time.
I have the latest (well, the latest Apple distributes) Java runtime environment.
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Post by SwimFellow on Dec 26, 2010 17:06:33 GMT -5
Odd. Snow Leopard or earlier?
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Post by Freddy on Dec 26, 2010 17:08:11 GMT -5
Snow Leopard.
Although it wouldn't be strange that the Developer Tools messed up my system. But it's been fixed now, so I wouldn't worry too much about it.
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Post by SwimFellow on Dec 26, 2010 17:11:02 GMT -5
Yep.. Odd. Then again, I downloaded, and played it on offline mode (downloaded beta before I got on a plane.) Maybe that had something to do with it?
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Post by austkyzor on Dec 27, 2010 0:39:04 GMT -5
Grah - was going to play minecraft - but then my wrist went and broke. Can't very well use a mouse in this condition
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Post by Freddy on Dec 27, 2010 0:43:51 GMT -5
BTW, how did you break it?
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Post by austkyzor on Dec 27, 2010 1:08:27 GMT -5
A series of complicated happenings involving: -outside -black ice -my parents' front steps, which are made of stone -slipping -falling -a weird position which led me to breaking my fall, after slipping on a patch of black ice, on the front steps
Also. Off topic. Stoppit
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ryan
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Post by ryan on Feb 13, 2011 20:21:42 GMT -5
you cant relly discuss...the facts are not that concrete to 1 side
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Post by Freddy on Feb 13, 2011 21:03:50 GMT -5
Ryan, for the love of god, please stop reviving old threads.
potassiumthxbai.
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Post by luc on Mar 8, 2011 19:05:10 GMT -5
I am PC.
To get my computer as a Mac, it would have cost 1,500.
It cost 500.
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Post by SwimFellow on Mar 8, 2011 19:58:01 GMT -5
But it's not a mac. That's the point.
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Post by Quinn on Mar 15, 2011 19:11:19 GMT -5
Macs are expensive, glichty, restricting,and unreliable...
The best commercial computers around are Linux Dell's (or HP's)...
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Post by SwimFellow on Mar 15, 2011 19:26:24 GMT -5
Expensive - Yes Glitchy - No Restricting - No Unreliable - No
Using a 1984 mac?
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